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Teresa White
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Username: teresa_white

Post Number: 166
Registered: 01-2005
Posted on Monday, October 24, 2005 - 4:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

In The Eye Of The Beholder

You were the family matriarch,
with your Winston waving
like a baton and who was I not to follow

orders –a benevolent dictator,
you ruled your daughters
with red polished nails

though you didn’t notice the early morning
I came home with my dress worn inside out—
for once I was glad of the Scotch

you drowned in each night.
Your ashes settle in a Missouri wood;
I cry out in dream but you rarely come.

When you do, you are thirty-five
again –hair black as gun metal,
lips alizarin crimson.

You were a film noir beauty
though you never thought of yourself
as beautiful. I know Father searches

our faces for signs we look like you,
but we are conspicuously ordinary
like a swan had given birth to wrens.

If only beauty itself could have saved you.
Zephyr
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Username: zephyr

Post Number: 2956
Registered: 07-2003
Posted on Monday, October 24, 2005 - 4:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

This held my interest right up to the final line,
Teresa which to me was not adding much to your poem,if it were me I would end on wrens.
Gary Blankenship
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Username: garyb

Post Number: 5325
Registered: 07-2001
Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2005 - 8:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

Teresa, a bitter poem, hard. Esp the inside out dress. Strong words and images. I tend to agree with Z about the last line, but see why you might like to keep it.

Smiles.

Gary


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Will Seamus Ennis
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Username: willsea

Post Number: 3
Registered: 10-2005
Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2005 - 12:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

Teresa, this is powerful stuff, and it's obvious as to the feelings towards the mother, the underlying neglect, the inattention, the invisibility in her dark shadow/beauty.

So why should her beauty have saved her? It never does for film noir characters (I like that reference), so how should it have worked for the mother?

Is there something unfinished here that being "saved" could have closed? Something unfair about beauty that should have also saved her?

I like the poem, it says a lot. Please resolve it.

Peace
Teresa White
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Username: teresa_white

Post Number: 169
Registered: 01-2005
Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2005 - 1:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

Thanks Zephyr, Gary, and Will.

I have much to think about here --and, Will, you bring up some very relevant questions. I'll have to work further on this to "resolve" these unanswered questions.

My best,

Teresa
karen
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Username: trig

Post Number: 160
Registered: 09-2005
Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2005 - 3:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

funny how we read differently, I dont see this as hard, just grounded with an underlying sadness

imagery is beautiful
thanks :-)

~M~
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Username: mjm

Post Number: 5592
Registered: 11-1998
Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2005 - 4:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

Some really terrific line breaks in this one, Teresa, particularly that one on Scotch.

I understand Will's point, though I don't agree. However, I'm not sure I would end on this line. What I have the impulse to do is title the piece with it "If only beauty could have saved you" -- much more evocative than the title you currently have.

The only verse I have nits with is this one:

"You were a film noir beauty
though you never thought of yourself
as beautiful. I know Father searches"

Both beauty and beautiful in the same verse. Another word for one of them? I might also clip the "I know" and just begin the sentence with "Father searches . . ."

Also, "hair black as gun metal" -- I was hoping for a comparison that I've not heard before, something as unique as "alizarin crimson" in the next line.

Hope something I've rambled about will help as you edit.

Love,
M
Teresa White
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Username: teresa_white

Post Number: 171
Registered: 01-2005
Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2005 - 5:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

Thanks, Karen. So pleased you like the imagery!

Thanks, M. You always are such a big help. I like your suggestion to change the title to the last line. I'll fix that 'beauty'/'beautiful' --and work on another modifier than 'gun metal'. It's sometimes hard to find unique synonyms for 'black'.

Best,

Teresa
steve williams
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Username: twobyfour

Post Number: 210
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2005 - 8:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

Hi Teresa

I like the emotion of the piece, just wanted some more sharp moments on the way.

you have 'winston' and 'ashes' -- consider adding to that as an extended metaphor. how smoking limits the life span etc. Also, they all smoked in film noir :-)

instead of gun-metal, tobacco, or rolled tobacco?

in s2 i would take out the dictator bit, once you have matriarch, that pretty much says the same thing to me.

perhaps 'who was I not to follow orders
polished like your red nails' or work it in somehow like that?

'conspiciously ordinary' i would look at tying in the film noir here. how about conspiciously technicolor? which ties into a swan being black and white and wrens or another colorful bird?

just some thoughts, brainstormin i guess.

good luck

steve
Emusing
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Username: emusing

Post Number: 2049
Registered: 08-2003
Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2005 - 9:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

Teresa,

Here's my thoughts on the last two stanzas. I think the last line could be the title as M suggests but I would cut it out of the end no questions asked.

You were a film noir beauty
though you never thought of yourself
(that way) [as beautiful]. I know Father searches

our faces for signs (of) [we look like] you,
but we are conspicuously ordinary
like a swan (who'd) [had ]given birth to wrens.

:-)

E
Teresa White
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Username: teresa_white

Post Number: 172
Registered: 01-2005
Posted on Wednesday, October 26, 2005 - 7:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

Steve, thanks. I appreciate your brainstorming! You've given me much to think about when I go to the edit process. Btw, 'tobacco' is a fitting choice to replace 'gun metal' --even though I think more of brown than black with that modifier.
Good idea to remove the word 'dictator' --you're correct in that the word 'matriarch' already says
that.

E, thanks --appreciate the particulars you point out --I really like what you've done with the last two stanzas; you've made my editing job that much easier.

My best,

Teresa
LJ Cohen
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Username: ljc

Post Number: 3187
Registered: 07-2002
Posted on Wednesday, October 26, 2005 - 3:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

Teresa,

Agree with M and E's suggestions here. Love the wrens as the last line and your original final line as the title. Strong stuff here. Looking forward to the revision.

best,
ljc
http://ljcbluemuse.blogspot.com/
Teresa White
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Username: teresa_white

Post Number: 173
Registered: 01-2005
Posted on Wednesday, October 26, 2005 - 8:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

Thanks lj,

Yes, M and E have given me many good suggestions as have the others. Glad you think it is strong.

Best,

Teresa
Sis
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Username: djclowes

Post Number: 233
Registered: 11-1998
Posted on Monday, October 31, 2005 - 9:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

how about black = obsidian ? Just a thought. Gun metal is a silver-grey or hemetite shade in my minds eye.
A fine piece Teresa. It brings forth many tangled images and emotions. A real thinker.

Sis
Teresa White
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Username: teresa_white

Post Number: 189
Registered: 01-2005
Posted on Monday, October 31, 2005 - 10:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

Thanks, Sis. "Obsidian" would be a perfect choice for black. I don't know what I was thinking when I wrote "gun metal" --you're correct that it is more a silver-grey. Pleased that you found this to be "a fine piece" --that means a lot.

Best,

Teresa
Laurie Byro
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Username: lauriette

Post Number: 1334
Registered: 11-2003
Posted on Wednesday, November 02, 2005 - 3:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

yes, sis nailed it but despite that little problem

this is a good piece of writing, and I'm glad it got an HM

Laurie

Teresa White
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Username: teresa_white

Post Number: 199
Registered: 01-2005
Posted on Thursday, November 03, 2005 - 7:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

Thanks, Laurie!!

Best,

Teresa

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